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  Emotionally very ill but can't face consequences of leaving

  by Isambard Crater in

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  i'm a new member so wanted to say 'hi'.

  i live in the u.k, was born in, fell away as an unbaptised publisher, got baptised in my 30s for reasons i'm retrospectively unsure of, and lost my faith about five years ago around the time of the original a.r.c.

  now, being unable to leave is making me physically, emotionally and mentally ill.. i'm not strong enough to da and live with the family consequences, and despite having several good friends outside the faith, none of them could support me in an active way as such.

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  Isambard Crater

  I'm a new Member so wanted to say 'hi'. I live in the U.K, was born in, fell away as an unbaptised publisher, got baptised in my 30s for reasons I'm retrospectively unsure of, and lost my faith about five years ago around the time of the original A.R.C. Now, being unable to leave is making me physically, emotionally and mentally ill.

  I'm not strong enough to DA and live with the family consequences, and despite having several good friends outside the faith, none of them could support me in an active way as such. But I've got to the stage where I can't face going to the meetings anymore.

  I have read loads of posts on this and other J.W forums from people who have to pretend they're still in although they're awake, so want advice on how you cope with meetings and occasional ministry without it driving you crazy like it's started to do to me?

  Fading's not an option at the moment so I want to be able to cope with the two weekly meetings and maybe 2 hours of door knocking per week maximum, but be able to stop my doubts and disgust dominating every waking thought the rest of the time, so I can relax and forget about it between meetings.
  
  
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  New member + anyone attended/seen the Zone Visit?

  by Isambard Crater in

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  i'm a new member so wanted to say 'hi'.

  i live in the u.k, was born in, fell away as an unbaptised publisher, got baptised in my 30s for reasons i'm retrospectively unsure of, and lost my faith about five years ago around the time of the original a.r.c.

  now, being unable to leave is making me physically, emotionally and mentally ill.. i have been visiting this forum for a couple of years and wanted to post my first message to see if anyone has attended, heard or watched the zone visit broadcast thing happening this month?

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  Thanks, Nicholaus Kopernicus. I can't wait. Not.

  Why the constant need among J.W's for modesty and about dress and grooming? In all the environments I frequent, from offices to supermarkets and restaurants, it's very, very rare to see people dressed immodestly. And why the need to have the annual convention animation telling young J.W's not to push older ones down the stairs? I mean, where does that happen and what sort of people need reminding?
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  New member + anyone attended/seen the Zone Visit?

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm a new member so wanted to say 'hi'.

  i live in the u.k, was born in, fell away as an unbaptised publisher, got baptised in my 30s for reasons i'm retrospectively unsure of, and lost my faith about five years ago around the time of the original a.r.c.

  now, being unable to leave is making me physically, emotionally and mentally ill.. i have been visiting this forum for a couple of years and wanted to post my first message to see if anyone has attended, heard or watched the zone visit broadcast thing happening this month?

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  Thank you, MissFit and freddo, for your encouraging thoughts and sharing your experiences.

  For over 3 years I have not believed in 1914, the governing body/FADS, shunning, preaching, the stance on child abuse, the flood and so many other beliefs, but the one thing that sometimes pricks at my mind and heart is the statue from Daniel. It does sometimes sound very feasible that the feet of iron and clay do depict today's fragmented and unstable governments and political situations. I guess that "what if?" doubt nags at many people who fade and the heartache will eventually fade over imagining my parents and grandparents in paradise realising I didn't make it.
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  New member + anyone attended/seen the Zone Visit?

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm a new member so wanted to say 'hi'.

  i live in the u.k, was born in, fell away as an unbaptised publisher, got baptised in my 30s for reasons i'm retrospectively unsure of, and lost my faith about five years ago around the time of the original a.r.c.

  now, being unable to leave is making me physically, emotionally and mentally ill.. i have been visiting this forum for a couple of years and wanted to post my first message to see if anyone has attended, heard or watched the zone visit broadcast thing happening this month?

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  Witness My Fury, I guess I'm like a certain percentile of people who can't get "the Truth" out of their heads even when they left it many years ago, so the notion of "what if they're right and I won't see my parents in the new system if I leave the J.W's after they die?" is always at the back of my mind.

  Vanderhoven7, I'm not so sure any more to be honest. The old testament god seems so different, the J.W religion seems to lack love in so many ways and be hypocritical, and I'm warming to my husband's views that religion and God were cooked up by governments as a way of controlling people when humans weren't able to get a grip. I've so many questions about the Bible like 607 BCE, Noah being a preacher, blah, blah, that I'm just confused and need time out without having the pressure to turn in report card each month.
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  New member + anyone attended/seen the Zone Visit?

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm a new member so wanted to say 'hi'.

  i live in the u.k, was born in, fell away as an unbaptised publisher, got baptised in my 30s for reasons i'm retrospectively unsure of, and lost my faith about five years ago around the time of the original a.r.c.

  now, being unable to leave is making me physically, emotionally and mentally ill.. i have been visiting this forum for a couple of years and wanted to post my first message to see if anyone has attended, heard or watched the zone visit broadcast thing happening this month?

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  Searril, I was thinking more along the lines of if I started helping him put up Christmas decorations (personally I love Christmas carols and coral music at that time of year, for example) and going to his nephews' birthday parties, someone is bound to find out soon enough, like an elder or someone in the congregation who spies me joining in something.
  
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  Dutch Elections

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

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  voters are going to the polls in the netherlands in the first of three crucial eurozone elections this year.

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  the voter turnout might set a new record.. what do you hope will be the result?.

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  For the guy to win who isn't the one who wants to ban mosques and Muslims, because someone like that winning would convince J.W's that the Great Tribulation is very close, like they all told me when Trump won.
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  New member + anyone attended/seen the Zone Visit?

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm a new member so wanted to say 'hi'.

  i live in the u.k, was born in, fell away as an unbaptised publisher, got baptised in my 30s for reasons i'm retrospectively unsure of, and lost my faith about five years ago around the time of the original a.r.c.

  now, being unable to leave is making me physically, emotionally and mentally ill.. i have been visiting this forum for a couple of years and wanted to post my first message to see if anyone has attended, heard or watched the zone visit broadcast thing happening this month?

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  Thank you Xanthippe !

  It's pretty much my parents who I'm staying in for. They know how bad my mental and physical health is but just can't see that the religion is even 1% to blame. I know for sure it'd break their hearts if I left again, because it broke their hearts when I drifted away as an unbaptised publisher in my 20's.
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  New member + anyone attended/seen the Zone Visit?

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm a new member so wanted to say 'hi'.

  i live in the u.k, was born in, fell away as an unbaptised publisher, got baptised in my 30s for reasons i'm retrospectively unsure of, and lost my faith about five years ago around the time of the original a.r.c.

  now, being unable to leave is making me physically, emotionally and mentally ill.. i have been visiting this forum for a couple of years and wanted to post my first message to see if anyone has attended, heard or watched the zone visit broadcast thing happening this month?

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  Good question, Lostandfound! Loads of J.W's in my congregation are excited about giving up their time and resources for Chelmsford this year and next!

  Stupid question maybe, but is the Zone Visit broadcast the U.K's getting the same as what the Netherlands had last week, or different?
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  New member + anyone attended/seen the Zone Visit?

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm a new member so wanted to say 'hi'.

  i live in the u.k, was born in, fell away as an unbaptised publisher, got baptised in my 30s for reasons i'm retrospectively unsure of, and lost my faith about five years ago around the time of the original a.r.c.

  now, being unable to leave is making me physically, emotionally and mentally ill.. i have been visiting this forum for a couple of years and wanted to post my first message to see if anyone has attended, heard or watched the zone visit broadcast thing happening this month?

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  It's good to know fading is still possible, even if the latest A.R.C stuff and last year's convention have hinted at faders being shunned, more or less. My husband's not a J.W. but if I successfully fade I would still never be able to get involved in celebrations on his side of the family though.
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  New member + anyone attended/seen the Zone Visit?

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm a new member so wanted to say 'hi'.

  i live in the u.k, was born in, fell away as an unbaptised publisher, got baptised in my 30s for reasons i'm retrospectively unsure of, and lost my faith about five years ago around the time of the original a.r.c.

  now, being unable to leave is making me physically, emotionally and mentally ill.. i have been visiting this forum for a couple of years and wanted to post my first message to see if anyone has attended, heard or watched the zone visit broadcast thing happening this month?

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  Isambard Crater

  There are loads of people on this forum and on the exJW Reddit thing who are still in for family or other similar reasons and would love to get out but can't...